I do like Rachel’s unadulterated ambition though. You rarely see female characters like that get what they want.

I agree with Tae re: Quinn. Blech.

Don’t mind the slutty gay cheerleaders though. Hate the wheelchair kid, the black girl and sometimes the Asian girl.

I disagree. I think it is hurting someone to put them in a position where they can’t be comfortable changing clothes in their own room.

Heck, Rachel was the same way with Finn and now he loves her!

Rachel wasn’t nearly as manipulative as Kurt.

Maybe outside a HS context, I’d feel differently

I’d be fine with the story line if it were presented as: “this is high school where everybody’s still figuring themselves out, so obviously Kurt has a lesson to learn that it’s not ok to manipulate people, or force yourself onto people, and Finn has a lesson to learn that it’s ok to be different/gay.” But the first part of that story line, i.e., what Kurt has to learn, isn’t there. (I get that what the writers think Kurt has to learn, if anything, is that it’s pointless and will only bring pain to hit on straight guys. A good and valid lesson, but not the main issue here.)

Other than this story line, I still don’t really like Kurt. So whiny. I’d like to see his character developed by having more gay characters on the show for him to have relationships with.

#someofmybestfriendsaregay #truestory

I kind of dislike Rachel too. I like Quinn though.

I guess the way I see it, Kurt’s a kid and he wears his heart on his sleeve. He’s not going to hurt Finn. Heck, Rachel was the same way with Finn and now he loves her! Maybe outside a HS context, I’d feel differently…but I can’t hate on a 15 year old with a crush.

He is so skeevy with Finn and that whole “f*ggy” name calling – Finn is wrong, but everyone says hurtful words when pushed to that level, he shouldn’t have said it but Kurt was incredibly frustrating, annoying, and yes, sexually harassing Finn. Ugh. Hated that scene.

Also, anyone else totally skeeved out by Kurt? I mean, we’re supposed to give him a pass on his sexual harassment of Finn because he’s gay? Just for a moment, imagine Finn’s a girl who’s not interested in Kurt, and Kurt’s a straight guy. Straight guy hits on girl all school year long. Although she tries to be nice about it, she is really clear she’s NOT interested. Then straight guy manipualates their parents into a relationship so the two kids will have to SHARE A ROOM? While the straight guy continues to practically lick his lips everytime he looks at the girl? And Finn is the bad guy for freaking out?

Yes, fine, Finn shouldn’t have said “f*ggy”, but there should have been apologies all around at the end of the Gaga episode, not just Finn “seeing the light” that it’s ok for Kurt to be Kurt.

You know, same scenario works if Finn’s a gay guy, but just not interested in Kurt. Whatever, Kurt’s creepy, and the producers are trying to make us feel like we’re homophobic for feeling creeped out.

@pearatty No! I didn’t see his comment. What name did he use…gotta go look.

Tae wins for best comment of the day. Did anyone else watch the MTV movie awards? When they had Zac and Vanessa on the Kiss Cam, he looked like he was going to barf if he had to kiss her!