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	<title>Comments on: Black people vs&#8230;</title>
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	<description>Nasty. Brutish. Short.</description>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2008/11/12/black-people-vs/comment-page-1/#comment-190899</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 02:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;it still won a majority of the (far larger) white vote&lt;/i&gt;

This is factually wrong.  White people voted against prop 8 55-45.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>it still won a majority of the (far larger) white vote</i></p>
<p>This is factually wrong.  White people voted against prop 8 55-45.</p>
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		<title>By: Ugarles</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2008/11/12/black-people-vs/comment-page-1/#comment-190883</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugarles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SSM advocates are picketing the Mormons because, with millions of dollars in funding and lots of out-of-state volunteers, the Mormon church led the Yes on 8 fight. Black churches were almost certainly not supportive - and if it was mentioned from the pulpit at all, opposed Prop 8 - but did not present the same financed and organized opposition that the Mormon church did.

And while African-Americans voted 70-30 against gay marriage, it still won a majority of the (far larger) white vote, so it is disingenuous to say it is the &quot;fault&quot; of Obama&#039;s African-American voter coattails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SSM advocates are picketing the Mormons because, with millions of dollars in funding and lots of out-of-state volunteers, the Mormon church led the Yes on 8 fight. Black churches were almost certainly not supportive &#8211; and if it was mentioned from the pulpit at all, opposed Prop 8 &#8211; but did not present the same financed and organized opposition that the Mormon church did.</p>
<p>And while African-Americans voted 70-30 against gay marriage, it still won a majority of the (far larger) white vote, so it is disingenuous to say it is the &#8220;fault&#8221; of Obama&#8217;s African-American voter coattails.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn Summers</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2008/11/12/black-people-vs/comment-page-1/#comment-190729</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn Summers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes! I kept trying to think of a way to phrase that, but gave up at &quot;c&#039;mon we still all hate straight white protestant men, right?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes! I kept trying to think of a way to phrase that, but gave up at &#8220;c&#8217;mon we still all hate straight white protestant men, right?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Pearatty</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2008/11/12/black-people-vs/comment-page-1/#comment-190725</link>
		<dc:creator>Pearatty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all just a way for the capital class to keep the working class at each other&#039;s throats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all just a way for the capital class to keep the working class at each other&#8217;s throats.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2008/11/12/black-people-vs/comment-page-1/#comment-190701</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blacks voted overwhelmingly for Prop 8, 70% for the Proposition that banned gay marriage. Don&#039;t be silly, Dawn. Everyone knows that homosexuality is generally frowned upon by black culture. Not ALL black culture or blacks feel that way, but it exists. Now, just imagine being a black man at that rally. That&#039;s a whole lotta stress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blacks voted overwhelmingly for Prop 8, 70% for the Proposition that banned gay marriage. Don&#8217;t be silly, Dawn. Everyone knows that homosexuality is generally frowned upon by black culture. Not ALL black culture or blacks feel that way, but it exists. Now, just imagine being a black man at that rally. That&#8217;s a whole lotta stress.</p>
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		<title>By: Karol</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2008/11/12/black-people-vs/comment-page-1/#comment-190691</link>
		<dc:creator>Karol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Thatâ€™s why SSM advocates are picketing Mormon churches and not black churches.&lt;/i&gt;

WORD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Thatâ€™s why SSM advocates are picketing Mormon churches and not black churches.</i></p>
<p>WORD.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2008/11/12/black-people-vs/comment-page-1/#comment-190684</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So, back off, the brothers and sisters in California. No, seriously, back off, those motherfuckers will bust a cap in yo ass.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s why SSM advocates are picketing Mormon churches and not black churches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So, back off, the brothers and sisters in California. No, seriously, back off, those motherfuckers will bust a cap in yo ass.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s why SSM advocates are picketing Mormon churches and not black churches.</p>
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		<title>By: Ari</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2008/11/12/black-people-vs/comment-page-1/#comment-190666</link>
		<dc:creator>Ari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Actually, thereâ€™s rampant racism in the gay communityâ€“even without Prop 8. Sounds like some see this as an opportunity to blow off some steam (yet again) at the expense of black people&lt;/i&gt;

Oh.... so if gays are racist then it&#039;s only fair that they be denied rights.  I totally get it now, but why not deny every white person rights until the African American community is placated?  That seems much more equitable, doesn&#039;t it? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Actually, thereâ€™s rampant racism in the gay communityâ€“even without Prop 8. Sounds like some see this as an opportunity to blow off some steam (yet again) at the expense of black people</i></p>
<p>Oh&#8230;. so if gays are racist then it&#8217;s only fair that they be denied rights.  I totally get it now, but why not deny every white person rights until the African American community is placated?  That seems much more equitable, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrina</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2008/11/12/black-people-vs/comment-page-1/#comment-190643</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, there&#039;s rampant racism in the gay community--even without Prop 8.  Sounds like some see this as an opportunity to blow off some steam (yet again) at the expense of black people...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, there&#8217;s rampant racism in the gay community&#8211;even without Prop 8.  Sounds like some see this as an opportunity to blow off some steam (yet again) at the expense of black people&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Just passing through</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2008/11/12/black-people-vs/comment-page-1/#comment-190627</link>
		<dc:creator>Just passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, I think that some folks forget that the civil rights movement includes civil rights for everybody.  Some people are so consumed by their religious beliefs that they don&#039;t realize or some would say don&#039;t care that they are discriminating against another group of people.  And thus, they have no problems with imposing their beliefs on the rest of society.  It&#039;s sad really and underscores a bigger problem that gays face in certain segments of society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, I think that some folks forget that the civil rights movement includes civil rights for everybody.  Some people are so consumed by their religious beliefs that they don&#8217;t realize or some would say don&#8217;t care that they are discriminating against another group of people.  And thus, they have no problems with imposing their beliefs on the rest of society.  It&#8217;s sad really and underscores a bigger problem that gays face in certain segments of society.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2008/11/12/black-people-vs/comment-page-1/#comment-190593</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmmmm.  I think the problem California gays have with black people has mostly to do with the fact blacks voted for prop 8 by a 70-30 margin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmmmm.  I think the problem California gays have with black people has mostly to do with the fact blacks voted for prop 8 by a 70-30 margin.</p>
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		<title>By: ari</title>
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		<dc:creator>ari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 04:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No but that was supposed to be where they were &lt;i&gt;so&lt;/i&gt; for gay marriage, what else in this scenario could have so vastly upset the apple cart?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No but that was supposed to be where they were <i>so</i> for gay marriage, what else in this scenario could have so vastly upset the apple cart?</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn Summers</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2008/11/12/black-people-vs/comment-page-1/#comment-190574</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn Summers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, because the McCain voters were all about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, because the McCain voters were all about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Karol</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2008/11/12/black-people-vs/comment-page-1/#comment-190571</link>
		<dc:creator>Karol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, black or white, it was Obama voters who voted to get rid of gay marriage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, black or white, it was Obama voters who voted to get rid of gay marriage.</p>
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