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By: Karol

Karol — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 04:06:40 +0000

I don’t even watch Fox News.

By: Casca

Casca — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 02:37:49 +0000

You fuckers. You know who you are. You don’t even watch Fox News.

By: Dawn Summers

Dawn Summers — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:58:16 +0000

Karol just called Dawn Fox News.
She really did, but what she doesn’t know is that girl 1 read and edited the “here’s the situation” part, so both of us agree on the facts.

By: Pi

Pi — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:27:57 +0000

Dawn is totally right. Because I don’t know Girl #1 and even if she were right, you still have to side with Dawn.

By: Ken

Ken — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:18:17 +0000

“Dawn left out all kinds of convenient details to let her audience decide.”

Karol just called Dawn Fox News.

By: Jake

Jake — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:05:47 +0000

Your first paragraph reads like great literature. It is one of the best things you have written.

By: Karol

Karol — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:36:24 +0000

When did Ken get all smart?

And Pearatty, I know you didn’t say anything bad about me but I’m not weak and I’m just so sure that if you, specifically, knew the whole story you’d see things differently. That’s not to say I’m on his side, at all, just that Dawn left out all kinds of convenient details to let her audience decide.

By: Dawn Summers

Dawn Summers — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:18:17 +0000

hahahhaha I have a Hello Kitty diary with a key!!! It’s pink. Will switch over to that format. Hey and congrats on the wedding thing, Snaps!

By: Ken

Ken — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:15:09 +0000

Wow. This is almost as bad as that Doree Shafrir relationship bit Karol linked to the other day. There’s a reason stuff like this should be saved for actual diaries (the Hello Kitty kind with the lock) … it’s to save all parties the embarrassment.

And if Friend 1 was a dude, then you’re obviously leaving all sorts of shit out–sexual tension, past crushes, a fiancee that might have objections to the relationship–that would be germane to this story.

But other than that, I’m on team Dawn.

By: pearatty

pearatty — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:43:03 +0000

Hey Girl 2, you’ll note that I didn’t necessarily say that it was Girl 2 who was being immature and unhealthy by running the relationship through a conduit.

By: Dawn Summers

Dawn Summers — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:30:48 +0000

Sama ti, fine.

By: Jamie

Jamie — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:50:43 +0000

I don’t know both sides, it’s true, but Dawn is a very talented writer. Definitely on your side on this Dawn but be careful, it seems like you might be growing a heart. You might want to get that looked at.

By: Karol

Karol — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:41:46 +0000

Dawn and I will be fine. I think we both know that.

By: Steff

Steff — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:40:11 +0000

This is so none of my beeswax but was the gender of the friend male, not female? ‘Cause that’s even worse in a way. This is a good example of why I don’t blog, anytime you get personal people get pissed off. I have enough foot in mouth disease as it is. Anyway regardless of the twat or twat-ette who became persona non grata (who btw you are completely better off without - only knowing one side of the story, there are very few things for which it is ok to jilt a friend - a real friend if that’s what it was - growing apart/time/distance that sort of thing not included, and even if you killed their dog or something they still should have had the good grace not to behave like a teenage girl) D & K kiss and make up please. I only know one of you but I like both of your blogs and K needs all the liberal friends she can to balance out the crazy. Again sorry is not my business but in my experience there are certain impasses in a friendship which cannot be overcome and while it may hurt to lose someone you once trusted there really is no point fighting it if one wants out. I’m sure it’s all more complicated than I can grasp here though.

By: kj

kj — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:30:17 +0000

Yes, Dawn. I think that you are ‘totally right’ based on what I read so far. But, I also think ‘Girl 1′ has her/his own interesting side of the story. Just being fair.

By: pn

pn — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:32:22 +0000

i’ve also just recently been in a similar situation and my ex-friend also didn’t have the balls to tell me she wanted to end it. it’s a pretty cold, heartless move, and looking back on it, i see that fourteen years of our friendship was basically thrown away because she doesn’t really know what friendship means. she had done this before with some of her other friends, but i didn’t realize what a fake person she was until it happened to me. what i took away from that whole episode is that i am a complete sucker as i thought i could be honest with this person, when in reality people very rarely like to be honest. they prefer to live in a fucking make believe pretty little shallow world instead of investing in friendships. so yeah, i’m totally with you on this one, dawn.

By: Jordan

Jordan — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:24:16 +0000

For what it’s worth, I’ve been in a similar spot when a friend just stopped accepting my calls without any explanation. It can be very upsetting and frustrating, but then I realized something my Ma told me a long time ago. When you are rejected like that, it creates a natural impulse to want to recover the friendship. But if you take a step back and think about the situation, you are probably trying to be friends with someone who isn’t worth it.

I don’t know about Karol’s part in all of this, because as a third party, she probably is put in one of the most awkward, can’t-win spots. But for you Dawn, I say fuck it. This chick is out of town anyway, and long distance relationships rarely work. Save the money for flight/hotel and throw a poker game instead.

I feel ya on this one.

By: Karol

Karol — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:03:36 +0000

I wasn’t just right about one thing, I was right about everything. As for being used, again, you mistake me for someone with a vested interest in this. I have none. Wake the fuck up already. Seek help.

By: Karol

Karol — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:59:01 +0000

Pearatty, you only think Dawn is right because she is leaving out huge details in this story which would color your perception in a major way (the only reason I am not writing the details out is because I do care about the immature retard who wrote this post and don’t want to add to her obvious pain). I have already outed myself as girl 2, and I assure you that having been party to their whole retarded relationship I assure you that I didn’t want to be their go between but I also didn’t want dawn taking to her bed (as she did) and being all sad about losing his friendship. I tried to help, not for the both of them, just for her. I have been nothing but on her side while she behaved like a asshole lunatic, including her writing of this post. If there’s anyone weak here, its Dawn. This is not how adults behave.

By: Dawn Summers

Dawn Summers — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:47:58 +0000

hahahaha. You told me so. I know. And I told you. You should not have engaged her craziness on my behalf not even for a second. It’s kinda like what pearatty says, you should have refused to be a conduit for it — it’s not like she doesn’t have my email address, blog site, phone number and im name. There is a reason you have been used through this whole process, you just dont see that you are being used. Shoulder shrug.

By: Dawn Summers

Dawn Summers — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:44:57 +0000

Dawn, is totally right.
thanks pearatty, is it wrong that i read nothing past that sentence? Is it?

By: Dawn Summers

Dawn Summers — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:42:26 +0000

Casca has a point here. This story has a lot to do with someone’s level of estrogen.
I kill you. Do you not understand how to follow instructions? I’m so dealing you pocket kings all night. see how you like your testosteron then!

By: pearatty

pearatty — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:37:56 +0000

Dawn, is totally right.

There is a book about what assholes women are when they end friendships — I think it’s called “The Friendship Crisis.” But basically, they do exactly what Girl 1 did here. Drop you, but mindfuck you by refusing to admit that they’ve dropped you, encouraging you to humiliate yourself over and over again until you’re so disgusted you don’t believe them anymore when they say “no no, there’s nothing wrong, let’s try again.” At which point they say “God, what took her so long to figure that out? And why is she all pissed? I mean, I can’t help it if I don’t like her anymore.” It’s a way of getting an ego boost out of someone you’re not willing to invest in anymore.

Girl 2, whatever. She sees both sides, is a little weak, but is trying to balance two friendships. If she were smart, she would have told both friends that she refused to be a conduit, which isn’t a very healthy or mature way to conduct relationships anyhow.

By: kj

kj — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:16:05 +0000

Casca has a point here. This story has a lot to do with someone’s level of estrogen.

Great post.

By: Casca

Casca — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:13:48 +0000

Chicks, sheesh, thank God I don’t have ovaries.

By: Karol

Karol — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:58:21 +0000

You are just so wrong and you can’t believe it (and you should because throughout this whole nightmare, I have been right about everything–including this ending–and you have been right about nothing). For you to believe that I was trying to fix you guys so that I could preserve my friendship with him is laughable. And just plain wrong. Also, you do this whole bs heartfelt post but leave out some very, um, crucial details that matter A LOT to the story. Want to talk gay? This post was it. BTW, where’s my link?