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		<title>By: dawn summers</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2006/08/01/well-take-it/#comment-7734</link>
		<dc:creator>dawn summers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 05:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Padum-dum. They'll be here all year, ladies and gents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Padum-dum. They&#8217;ll be here all year, ladies and gents.</p>
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		<title>By: Pearatty</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2006/08/01/well-take-it/#comment-7733</link>
		<dc:creator>Pearatty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me, I prefer the term "European-American people," thank you very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me, I prefer the term &#8220;European-American people,&#8221; thank you very much.</p>
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		<title>By: Alceste</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2006/08/01/well-take-it/#comment-7732</link>
		<dc:creator>Alceste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;/i&gt;That's why all &lt;b&gt;whites&lt;/b&gt; need one black friend!&lt;/i&gt;

That's European-American to you, young lady!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why all <b>whites</b> need one black friend!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s European-American to you, young lady!</p>
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		<title>By: dawn summers</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2006/08/01/well-take-it/#comment-7731</link>
		<dc:creator>dawn summers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See? That's why all whites need one black friend! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See? That&#8217;s why all whites need one black friend! <img src='http://www.clareified.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Pearatty</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2006/08/01/well-take-it/#comment-7730</link>
		<dc:creator>Pearatty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an Egyptian-American friend who marks off "African American" on forms because it's the only ethnic appellation that remotely fits.   

Also, I had the amusing experience once of hearing an uncle, from an older generation, who had come back from a safari in Africa and was showing pictures of the locals and was trying to be sensitive, saying, "those are the nati . . , uh, Afri . .  uh, African Americans who helped us with our gear."  (Although now that I think of it, I suppose the uncle didn't really need to point out the locals' race.) 

So I guess in the US we have the issue of what word you use to define an ethnic group; because "African American" doesn't capture everyone in the group it's supposed to define (e.g., people not from America), and includes some people who aren't really in the group we're talking about (e.g., Egyptians).  

But I suspect the real problem with "African American" or "Black People" from the NYT's point of view is that it takes up too much space.

Anyway, I figure I'll use whatever appellation I'm told to.  So until I hear otherwise, "African-American people" it is.  So sayeth Dawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an Egyptian-American friend who marks off &#8220;African American&#8221; on forms because it&#8217;s the only ethnic appellation that remotely fits.   </p>
<p>Also, I had the amusing experience once of hearing an uncle, from an older generation, who had come back from a safari in Africa and was showing pictures of the locals and was trying to be sensitive, saying, &#8220;those are the nati . . , uh, Afri . .  uh, African Americans who helped us with our gear.&#8221;  (Although now that I think of it, I suppose the uncle didn&#8217;t really need to point out the locals&#8217; race.) </p>
<p>So I guess in the US we have the issue of what word you use to define an ethnic group; because &#8220;African American&#8221; doesn&#8217;t capture everyone in the group it&#8217;s supposed to define (e.g., people not from America), and includes some people who aren&#8217;t really in the group we&#8217;re talking about (e.g., Egyptians).  </p>
<p>But I suspect the real problem with &#8220;African American&#8221; or &#8220;Black People&#8221; from the NYT&#8217;s point of view is that it takes up too much space.</p>
<p>Anyway, I figure I&#8217;ll use whatever appellation I&#8217;m told to.  So until I hear otherwise, &#8220;African-American people&#8221; it is.  So sayeth Dawn.</p>
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		<title>By: PAUL</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2006/08/01/well-take-it/#comment-7729</link>
		<dc:creator>PAUL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is saying "black people or black women" better than saying blacks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is saying &#8220;black people or black women&#8221; better than saying blacks?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2006/08/01/well-take-it/#comment-7728</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 02:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with "African American" is there are white people from Africa.  If you're African American, what is Teresa Kerry (who was born in Mozambique)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with &#8220;African American&#8221; is there are white people from Africa.  If you&#8217;re African American, what is Teresa Kerry (who was born in Mozambique)?</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn Summers</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2006/08/01/well-take-it/#comment-7727</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn Summers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a general matter, I would prefer to see "african-american" followed by a noun, "the african-american actress then smothers her two pretend children in her armpits."
As opposed to the standalone african-americans. Like no one would ever say "the shorts are marginalized in the media" or the "fats have to pay higher airfare."

I guess I don't mind "black girl" but "blacks" really grates my last nerve.

Clareified: All about education and information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a general matter, I would prefer to see &#8220;african-american&#8221; followed by a noun, &#8220;the african-american actress then smothers her two pretend children in her armpits.&#8221;<br />
As opposed to the standalone african-americans. Like no one would ever say &#8220;the shorts are marginalized in the media&#8221; or the &#8220;fats have to pay higher airfare.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess I don&#8217;t mind &#8220;black girl&#8221; but &#8220;blacks&#8221; really grates my last nerve.</p>
<p>Clareified: All about education and information.</p>
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		<title>By: Pearatty</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2006/08/01/well-take-it/#comment-7726</link>
		<dc:creator>Pearatty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What's the preferred term?  African Americans?  Is "blacks" not ok as definition of an ethnic group, but ok as an adjective?  I.e., is it ok to say, "that black girl standing over there," or should one say "that African American girl standing over there" or something else?  Not that I notice if someone is black or white, but for other people, you know.

Not being cute, really want to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the preferred term?  African Americans?  Is &#8220;blacks&#8221; not ok as definition of an ethnic group, but ok as an adjective?  I.e., is it ok to say, &#8220;that black girl standing over there,&#8221; or should one say &#8220;that African American girl standing over there&#8221; or something else?  Not that I notice if someone is black or white, but for other people, you know.</p>
<p>Not being cute, really want to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn Summers</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2006/08/01/well-take-it/#comment-7725</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn Summers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, for someone from that generation, no...i mean lydon johnson said "negroes" while signing the civil rights bill...but in 2006 the new york freaking times should do better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, for someone from that generation, no&#8230;i mean lydon johnson said &#8220;negroes&#8221; while signing the civil rights bill&#8230;but in 2006 the new york freaking times should do better.</p>
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		<title>By: Pearatty</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2006/08/01/well-take-it/#comment-7724</link>
		<dc:creator>Pearatty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judge Motley used to say "blacks."  Is it wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judge Motley used to say &#8220;blacks.&#8221;  Is it wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2006/08/01/well-take-it/#comment-7723</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, FYI, in the original draft of the article, the word was "negresses." Not even capitalized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, FYI, in the original draft of the article, the word was &#8220;negresses.&#8221; Not even capitalized.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2006/08/01/well-take-it/#comment-7722</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was Mo'nique shooting a hair dryer commercial on an airplane? I hear that image is becoming more popular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was Mo&#8217;nique shooting a hair dryer commercial on an airplane? I hear that image is becoming more popular.</p>
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		<title>By: Chilly</title>
		<link>http://www.clareified.com/2006/08/01/well-take-it/#comment-7721</link>
		<dc:creator>Chilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You see they are trying to be the fair and balanced reporting service that they were 30 years ago. The Editor decreed that the Times would work to be a trusted source once again and report on things just like they did back in the day.

Who reads the NYT anyway?  I much prefer the Register. http://www.dmregister.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You see they are trying to be the fair and balanced reporting service that they were 30 years ago. The Editor decreed that the Times would work to be a trusted source once again and report on things just like they did back in the day.</p>
<p>Who reads the NYT anyway?  I much prefer the Register. <a href="http://www.dmregister.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.dmregister.com</a></p>
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